Cessna T210 in the mountains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMzjf6K0ll0 http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2020/08/cessna-t210m-turbo-centurion-n761rg.html Cirrus SR22 in Florida: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAlyTBHbhZE -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W <carlsonj at workingcode.com>