Here are the two videos discussed at the tail end of the meeting tonight: https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/online-learning/accident-case-studies/traffic-pattern-tragedy https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/online-learning/accident-case-studies/communication-breakdown -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W <carlsonj at workingcode.com>