survey

[Steve Gordon]

My idea for the survey was that for each price bracket, we would gauge how
many members our club can expect, and therefore how much the one-time and
monthly dues will be.  For example, if only the seven of us are interested
in a Cardinal, then we'd know that we'll each have to contribute about
$1,500 down and then about $200/month thereafter (assuming we'd want to keep
such a beautiful plane in a hangar).  If, however, we find a total of 15
interested members, we can cut those numbers in half making the Cardinal a
more affordable prospect.

 

The survey contains three scenarios.  One is a basic 172, one is a 172 Hawk
XP, and the third is the Cardinal.  Under each option I have an estimated
cost structure (assuming 12 members) and the following options:

 

-          This would be my first choice.  I would definitely participate.

-          Not my first choice, but I would participate.

-          Undecided.

-          Not interested.

 

>From our point of view, undecided might as well be not interested, but it
doesn't leave the survey taker feeling like they've burned their bridges in
case they want to join later.

 

I am finishing up the survey now.  When I'm done I'll send it out to the
core group.

 

-Steve

 

 

 

From: eefc-core-bounces at workingcode.com
[mailto:eefc-core-bounces at workingcode.com] On Behalf Of Bob Irving
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:09 PM
To: 'Todd Brooks'; eefc-core at workingcode.com
Subject: RE: survey

 

I agree. And I like the SOMEWHAT/VERY MUCH/DEFINITELY and might add NOPE.

 

From: eefc-core-bounces at workingcode.com
[mailto:eefc-core-bounces at workingcode.com] On Behalf Of Todd Brooks
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:03 PM
To: eefc-core at workingcode.com
Subject: Re: survey

 


1. I think Mike is on the right track. And we will just have to wait and see
what Tim gets back to us with what he is proposing.

 

2. I guess I misunderstood the $40-50-60k survey.  I didn't realize that we
were planning to ask the potential members this so soon.  I thought that was
for our situational decision making.  

I wouldn't ask the rest of them that right now, personally.  The first plane
purchase should really be up to us.  Then we should tell them what we're
doing and how it is going to work based on some initial simple input,
otherwise we'll get too many opinions and noone will be happy.

 

At first I would simply ask something to the effect of:

1. Are you interested?  SOMEWHAT / VERY MUCH  / DEFINITELY

2. Do you prefer High Wings or Low Wings?  

3. What do you expect to be your price limit for monthly dues and for
rentals (plane types depending)?  $100/150/200  -   $60/70/80/90

Then ask for comments.

 

That's my two cents on this one.

 



--- On Fri, 4/10/09, Mike Lysik <mike.lysik at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Mike Lysik <mike.lysik at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: survey
To: eefc-core at workingcode.com
Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 5:18 PM

Let's only send and reply to eefc-core at workingcode.com
<http://us.mc1113.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=eefc-core@workingcode.com>
from now on.  I'm 
getting double emails which make things more confusing than it has to be.

I agree, let's wait for Tim's #, and go from there.  My take on the 
financing was this...we agree on a final price including upgrades.  We go to

a bank for a loan, and EE is the guarantor on the loan.  We own the plane, 
and EE gets paid the fair value of the plane in it's current state, plus the

upgrades we're proposing.

Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Carlson" <carlsonj at workingcode.com
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To: "Bob Irving" <rhirving at verizon.net
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Cc: <eefc-core at workingcode.com
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Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: survey


> Bob Irving writes:
>> Are we thinking that we will propose 3  different airplanes at different
>> price levels (40-50-60) and ask everyone to vote on what they want? I 
>> think
>> this approach would be a mistake. We will end up with 4 people choosing
>> option#1, 4 people choosing option#2, 3 choosing option#3, etc. Nobody 
>> will
>> be happy.
>
> I would offer the three options and request that people say (for each
> option):
>
> - would prefer this one if it were chosen
> - neither prefer nor reject
> - would not join club if it were chosen
>
> In other words, a vote of +1 / 0 / -1 on each plane.  We can figure
> the membership from the '-1' entries..  We need to eliminate from
> consideration any plane that has so many '-1' votes that we don't have
> enough people to continue, and eliminate from consideration for the
> initial membership anyone who doesn't answer.  We can figure the plane
> choice from the remaining votes and planes by looking at the '+1'
> entries.
>
> -- 
> James Carlson         42.703N 71.076W         <carlsonj at workingcode.com
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